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Poster: billbarstad Date: Oct 29, 2011 4:31pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Another list of movies in question

Yes, those examples make sense. It's quite clear that renewals must be based on the year in notice.

Am I correct that when you wrote: "However, the date-in-notice was 1949 so the windows are calculated from 1949 not 1950." for D.O.A. to have a valid renewal, you seem to imply that substitution of the year in notice year for that in the registration date is how the anniversary year window is calculated in a case like this? That is, did D.O.A. have an anniversary year renewal window of 22 April 1976 - 21 April 1977? Would there really be a calendar year renewal window for D.O.A., too, because it was registered in 1950? Can I pin you down?

Thanks again!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Oct 29, 2011 5:18pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Another list of movies in question

Yes, there would not be a calendar year renewal period for D.O.A because 1949 movies were had to be renewed based on the anniversary year window. Effectively the year-in-notice is the official publication year as far a copyright goes. If a 1966 film accidently had a 1942 year-in-notice had to be renewed by the registration anniversary date in 1970 to be renewed regardless of the actual date of publication. Effectively a film could be pre-dated up to 28 years and be effectively copyrighted (of course, post dating of more than one year rendered the notice invalid).

Many copyright owners fell into this trap when the took up late registrations in the 1980s for 1950s and 60s movies. They thought they had 28 years from registration to renew and not 28 years from date in notice.

To summarize the rules for renewals:
-1923-1949 (inclusive): 28th anniversary window based on the date of registration and the year in notice.

-1950: 28th anniversary window based on the date of registration and the year in notice OR 28th Calandar year window based on the year in notice.

-1951-1963 (inclusive): 28th Caledar year renewal window based on the year in notice.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Oct 29, 2011 6:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Another list of movies in question

Thanks much!